Producing in key

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Producing in key

Postby Avtershock » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:49 am

Hello I am a somewhat new producer and fresh to the forum! I have been working on multiple tracks and heard before that it is important to produce all in the same key. I was curious if this is something that makes or breaks many tracks? I believe I have somewhat of a good ear being around music for quite awhile, but I'm not completely sure. I don't really know the chords like C major and such but I am totally willing to learn them in order to maximize my producing skills. Do chords, bass, and leads all need to be in the same key or can you stray from particular patterns and place in somewhat random notes that sound good? Thank you all and let me know :)
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Re: Producing in key

Postby tjmidge » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:10 pm

Avtershock wrote:Hello I am a somewhat new producer and fresh to the forum! I have been working on multiple tracks and heard before that it is important to produce all in the same key. I was curious if this is something that makes or breaks many tracks? I believe I have somewhat of a good ear being around music for quite awhile, but I'm not completely sure. I don't really know the chords like C major and such but I am totally willing to learn them in order to maximize my producing skills. Do chords, bass, and leads all need to be in the same key or can you stray from particular patterns and place in somewhat random notes that sound good? Thank you all and let me know :)


sometimes when in the studio too long my ears deceive me and i go off key but then fix it afterward. basically u need your elements to be in key or they just sound brutal....for example if your bass is completely off key with your lead it will just not fit together. or if u have sample loops in there that arent in key with your melody....basically yes u pretty much need to keep things in key.
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Re: Producing in key

Postby DJRoyRada » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:42 pm

This always have been the hardest part for me, got al the tech stuff right but lacked musictheory knowledge.

I want to be able to hear a song and just tell wich key it is in,, pretty hard though., my remixes used to suck because of having acapellas in the wrong key.
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Re: Producing in key

Postby tjmidge » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:03 pm

three words: mixed in key
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Re: Producing in key

Postby Avtershock » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:54 am

Yeah that makes sense, I've always heard to definitely mix in key. But when you make a song do you say "this song is going to be C major"? I typically just stay stick to what sounds right and it has done me well I just want to know if there is some magical harmony I'm missing out on by not following chords and such..
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Re: Producing in key

Postby Hrelja » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:46 pm

Methinks tjmidge was referring to a certain program named "mixed in key".
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Re: Producing in key

Postby DJRoyRada » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:23 pm

Mixed in key looks interesting, never heard of it but looks like a lot of people are using it. 58$ seems like a lot though for just finding out in which key a track is, finding the bpm is too simple. Still looks like a usefull tool.
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Re: Producing in key

Postby tjmidge » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:27 pm

DJRoyRada wrote:Mixed in key looks interesting, never heard of it but looks like a lot of people are using it. 58$ seems like a lot though for just finding out in which key a track is, finding the bpm is too simple. Still looks like a usefull tool.


its really good wen creating bootys of tracks n stuff or mashups...you can find which tracks fit together harmonically.
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Re: Producing in key

Postby DJRoyRada » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:31 pm

Ive been thinking about making a mashup pack, for on blogs and in my dj sets, it went kinda slow because finding fitting tracks took up most my time, so thanks you have made it a little easier for me :D
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Re: Producing in key

Postby onimojo » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:25 pm

If you wanna know more about basic theory there's this book "Music Theory for Computer Musicians". I've read it and it's very interesting!
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Re: Producing in key

Postby Durt_Grizzly » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:20 am

onimojo wrote:If you wanna know more about basic theory there's this book "Music Theory for Computer Musicians". I've read it and it's very interesting!

haha yeah!! I just read this actually! very helpful stuff in there... But yeah I can normally tell right away if something sounds in key or not but it's a lot harder to try and find the right notes to match an acapella especially. Might have to look into getting that Mixed In Key plug-in instead of spending like an hour trying to figure out why "that one note" doesn't sound right lol
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Re: Producing in key

Postby E-Tjen » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:29 pm

tjmidge wrote:
DJRoyRada wrote:Mixed in key looks interesting, never heard of it but looks like a lot of people are using it. 58$ seems like a lot though for just finding out in which key a track is, finding the bpm is too simple. Still looks like a usefull tool.


its really good wen creating bootys of tracks n stuff or mashups...you can find which tracks fit together harmonically.


I've trained myself for 0$ to do it by ear and I'm not that familiar with musical theory although I know some.
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Re: Producing in key

Postby Sebas » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:31 pm

tjmidge wrote:
DJRoyRada wrote:Mixed in key looks interesting, never heard of it but looks like a lot of people are using it. 58$ seems like a lot though for just finding out in which key a track is, finding the bpm is too simple. Still looks like a usefull tool.


its really good wen creating bootys of tracks n stuff or mashups...you can find which tracks fit together harmonically.

guys. just find the rootkey note. Play along with a piano. What key fits the best is the root key. Then find out if its in minor or major. Find the musical scale and that's it! (look on wikipedia music scales /minor /major, semitones/ half /whole tone etc ).
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Re: Producing in key

Postby rockwell » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:43 am

I agree with sebas. If your doing a remix it can be good to use a program like mixed in key to find out what key the original is in. Once you know the key of the song you can look up the wiki scales etc. and stick with the notes that are in that scale. but for the most part if your really into music you can tell when your out of key. the bad notes tend to stick out
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