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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby austinrobles » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:20 pm

Hey guys! Im having alooooooot of trouble finding the right kick samplee....I probably need to consider some layering to acheive the sound im after, but im not entirely sure has to how ago about doing that. I produce trance music and im trying to acheive a similar kick such as those that Alex M.o.r.p.h alwasy seems to have.

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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby jec1521 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:23 pm

Chris1292 wrote:Hey guys, quick question. I was watching the Avicii video for Future Magazine and he was talking about a technique that LL showed him using a one knob master limiter o push parts of the track down every so often. Does anyone know how to use this technique?


Kjaerhaus Limiter on the Master Channel set to 0 db.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby alvarogc » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:31 pm

jec1521 wrote:
Chris1292 wrote:Hey guys, quick question. I was watching the Avicii video for Future Magazine and he was talking about a technique that LL showed him using a one knob master limiter o push parts of the track down every so often. Does anyone know how to use this technique?


Kjaerhaus Limiter on the Master Channel set to 0 db.


It's a free VST and you can download it here :wink:
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby Cellsplitt » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:38 pm

dyro wrote:
Cellsplitt wrote:
Siyabulela wrote:
Cellsplitt wrote:Okay, quick question. Does anyone know where I can get some "crowd cheering" vocals? Been looking everywhere but just can't seem to find any.


here you go. http://www.pacdv.com/sounds/ambience_sounds.html


Thank!!! There are some good sounds there, but the crowd ones are not what I'm looking for. You know the sort of crowd cheers you hear in some tracks by pro producers. They`re normally used for buildups. If I can remember rightly, "Klav" by Dyro uses crowd cheers during a buildup. That's what I'm looking for :)


they'r in the vengeance fx packs


Thanks mate!!! :) Been looking for some stuff like this for AGES! But what volume pack are they in? 1 or 2?
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby noob » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:47 pm

Does anyone know how to make the two main synth sounds at 2.20? I've tried myself but it didn't work out very good, even tho its probably easy.




also: is there a technique to make something sound like it goes up, without using pitch?
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby Axon » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:05 pm

Hey guys, im new to this forum great feedback on this topic, read half of it so far ill get to the rest later but a topic that i haven't seen just yet is layering, has it been covered yet? cuz im reaaaally struggling with layering in terms of eqing,compression,panning

i gave it a shot but i think im doing it wrong, is it because im using shit synths or bad processing haha.. probley both


http://soundcloud.com/axonoffical/attempt-at-layering
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby Chris1292 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:45 pm

DennieMeister wrote:
Chris1292 wrote:Hey guys, quick question. I was watching the Avicii video for Future Magazine and he was talking about a technique that LL showed him using a one knob master limiter o push parts of the track down every so often. Does anyone know how to use this technique?


You mean sidechaining? Shouldn't be hard to find. Check YouTube or this topic.


No its not sidechaining. He uses the KJaerhus Master Limiter to like push back the output I assume every so often so that at the end of the mix theres some headroom? I assume thats what he does. does anyone have any better details? He briefly explained it but they didnt show him actually do it. Im not sure it was something he did just once at the end because he talked about it and opened it up right after he layered his synths and piano and before he started working on the drums. Idk im just confused.. but thanks for teh answers so far. Im new to the forum and its been great!
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby tjmidge » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:32 pm

Chris1292 wrote:
DennieMeister wrote:
Chris1292 wrote:Hey guys, quick question. I was watching the Avicii video for Future Magazine and he was talking about a technique that LL showed him using a one knob master limiter o push parts of the track down every so often. Does anyone know how to use this technique?


You mean sidechaining? Shouldn't be hard to find. Check YouTube or this topic.


No its not sidechaining. He uses the KJaerhus Master Limiter to like push back the output I assume every so often so that at the end of the mix theres some headroom? I assume thats what he does. does anyone have any better details? He briefly explained it but they didnt show him actually do it. Im not sure it was something he did just once at the end because he talked about it and opened it up right after he layered his synths and piano and before he started working on the drums. Idk im just confused.. but thanks for teh answers so far. Im new to the forum and its been great!


i thought he just put on the master limiter too boost the overall volume of his track for exporting purposes so the track is loud, kinda like a pre master thing.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby Zakii » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:50 pm

Hi guys, I've searched the forum and read the whole thing as well, and asked on here before but still haven't found a solution:

In Logic when you bounce down files in order to save CPU, do you normalize those audio clips or keep it off? Do you ever use the third option ("overload protection only")? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby supracg » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:07 pm

Zakii wrote:Hi guys, I've searched the forum and read the whole thing as well, and asked on here before but still haven't found a solution:

In Logic when you bounce down files in order to save CPU, do you normalize those audio clips or keep it off? Do you ever use the third option ("overload protection only")? Thanks in advance.


I believe normalize makes the bounced file as loud as possible, kindof like brickwall limiting but I'm not sure
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby DennieMeister » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:21 pm

Zakii wrote:Hi guys, I've searched the forum and read the whole thing as well, and asked on here before but still haven't found a solution:

In Logic when you bounce down files in order to save CPU, do you normalize those audio clips or keep it off? Do you ever use the third option ("overload protection only")? Thanks in advance.


If you put a peak limiter on the end of your master chain you'll be fine, there's no need to finalize.
That's also the reason I'm not using it.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby Zakii » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:25 pm

DennieMeister wrote:
Zakii wrote:Hi guys, I've searched the forum and read the whole thing as well, and asked on here before but still haven't found a solution:

In Logic when you bounce down files in order to save CPU, do you normalize those audio clips or keep it off? Do you ever use the third option ("overload protection only")? Thanks in advance.


If you put a peak limiter on the end of your master chain you'll be fine, there's no need to finalize.
That's also the reason I'm not using it.


So you bounce down files with your master chain on then? I have a gain plug-in, PSP Vintage Warmer2, and Ozone on it btw. Thanks for your reply.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby DennieMeister » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:41 pm

Zakii wrote:
DennieMeister wrote:
Zakii wrote:Hi guys, I've searched the forum and read the whole thing as well, and asked on here before but still haven't found a solution:

In Logic when you bounce down files in order to save CPU, do you normalize those audio clips or keep it off? Do you ever use the third option ("overload protection only")? Thanks in advance.


If you put a peak limiter on the end of your master chain you'll be fine, there's no need to finalize.
That's also the reason I'm not using it.


So you bounce down files with your master chain on then? I have a gain plug-in, PSP Vintage Warmer2, and Ozone on it btw. Thanks for your reply.


No, I just bounce it with normalization off. In the end everything will pass the master chain so there's no need to.
I was just researching it and it turns out not to be a limiter, you can read it here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2890
Never use it though, because I've bounced 2/3 tracks with Normalization on and off, and without it sounded better.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby dyro » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:30 am

supracg wrote:
Zakii wrote:Hi guys, I've searched the forum and read the whole thing as well, and asked on here before but still haven't found a solution:

In Logic when you bounce down files in order to save CPU, do you normalize those audio clips or keep it off? Do you ever use the third option ("overload protection only")? Thanks in advance.


I believe normalize makes the bounced file as loud as possible, kindof like brickwall limiting but I'm not sure


It's not like brickwall limiting at all. The normalization process only works if the bounce you are making is under 0db. Even if its spot-on it's not doing anything. It actually defines the loudest part and pushes the volume up. So if your loudest peak is -6db for example, normalizing will make the entire bounce 6db louder.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby supracg » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:41 am

dyro wrote:
supracg wrote:
Zakii wrote:Hi guys, I've searched the forum and read the whole thing as well, and asked on here before but still haven't found a solution:

In Logic when you bounce down files in order to save CPU, do you normalize those audio clips or keep it off? Do you ever use the third option ("overload protection only")? Thanks in advance.


I believe normalize makes the bounced file as loud as possible, kindof like brickwall limiting but I'm not sure


It's not like brickwall limiting at all. The normalization process only works if the bounce you are making is under 0db. Even if its spot-on it's not doing anything. It actually defines the loudest part and pushes the volume up. So if your loudest peak is -6db for example, normalizing will make the entire bounce 6db louder.


There you go, makes more sense.
Basically makes your bounce as loud as possible without getting into its dynamics
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