Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby alvarogc » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:54 pm

RyanBrennan wrote:Does anyone know what the riser that comes in at 4:44 is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSaHUK47Q84

I know I have heard it in a lot of his songs as well as other producers so I'm guessing its a sample but if not does anyone have any insight into how to make the sound?


Look at Avicii's interview on Future Music, you can see how he does it with a Vengeance sample and playing with the pitch
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby EugeniAguilar » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:12 am

sebrodrigues wrote:Does anyone know what plug-in just about every big producer seems to be using nowadays to make that rising, kind off-pitch synth sound. For example it comes in at 3:50 in Greyhound and at 1:52 in Spaceman.

Thanks alot




Hi!

That effect is called a Shepard Tone, which is an audio ilusion that creates the effect of constant rising. Google shepard tone ableton, and you'll find bunch of tutorial on how to do it; you can apply it to white noise riser and other different instruments if you want.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby djdstar » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:20 pm

Pro tip of the day: update the plugins you use often to the newest versions! Sometimes you get new features, and better stability.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby shmallen » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:11 am

Hey guys!

I'm in need of some guidance here. I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to emulate this effect. It's kinda hard to explain but its in Madeon's Remix of Raise Your Weapon at about 1:04 and in Zedd's Spectrum at 3:11 to 3:20. The kind of like broken melody with a bunch complex shit all going on at once but cuts out the thing before it. I'm terrible at explaining haha. My guess is it's a bunch of MIDI clips triggered by Ableton's randomizer? I can't seem to figure it out. When i layer the sounds myself it just sounds too muddy and EXTREMELY time consuming. I'm working with Ableton Live. If you could point me to a tutorial or just explain how to set it all up that would be great! Thanks!

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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby djdstar » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:54 am

shmallen wrote:Hey guys!

I'm in need of some guidance here. I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to emulate this effect. It's kinda hard to explain but its in Madeon's Remix of Raise Your Weapon at about 1:04 and in Zedd's Spectrum at 3:11 to 3:20. The kind of like broken melody with a bunch complex shit all going on at once but cuts out the thing before it. I'm terrible at explaining haha. My guess is it's a bunch of MIDI clips triggered by Ableton's randomizer? I can't seem to figure it out. When i layer the sounds myself it just sounds too muddy and EXTREMELY time consuming. I'm working with Ableton Live. If you could point me to a tutorial or just explain how to set it all up that would be great! Thanks!



One way you can do it, is researching legato mode in Ableton, using a bunch of clips that are in the same key.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby CLOfficial » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:29 am

Hey Guys,

This Past week I've been killing myself trying to achieve a guitarish ElectroHouse Bass. Dyro & Julain Jordan have especially been using this alot.
I'm on Summer vacation and I've been spending countless hours trying to figure it out but to no avail -___-
I've gotten pretty close using Massive, but haven't been able to get that Grit, & it sounds to 'thin and fake' even with a sausage fattener and layering. I end up distorting it too much at times too.
Well yeah, would greatly appreciate any tips in creating it.
Thanks in Advance.



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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby IamChuck » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:26 pm

djdstar wrote:
shmallen wrote:Hey guys!

I'm in need of some guidance here. I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to emulate this effect. It's kinda hard to explain but its in Madeon's Remix of Raise Your Weapon at about 1:04 and in Zedd's Spectrum at 3:11 to 3:20. The kind of like broken melody with a bunch complex shit all going on at once but cuts out the thing before it. I'm terrible at explaining haha. My guess is it's a bunch of MIDI clips triggered by Ableton's randomizer? I can't seem to figure it out. When i layer the sounds myself it just sounds too muddy and EXTREMELY time consuming. I'm working with Ableton Live. If you could point me to a tutorial or just explain how to set it all up that would be great! Thanks!



One way you can do it, is researching legato mode in Ableton, using a bunch of clips that are in the same key.


To be honest deadmau5 mentioned this in one of his ustream videos. He suggest that it is really audio samples trigered in abletons legato mode.
Just set follow action to 0-2-0 ( or how you like.. its about how long sample will be played before switching to other sample). For more interesting results set "Follow action A" to Any or Other. Press play button and record everything from that channel to a new one. Later just cut and paste + Sidechain. I tried few times to create this kind of "complextro" sound and got pretty damn good results by using this method. Its really fun :).

P.S. - Take some old records and chop them in one bar loops then use this method. Sometimes results are pretty good and you are finishing with some funky house tune.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby Mick » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:24 pm

Hey all, so my question is about a preset I found in massive called underwunder. When I hold the s key on my laptop it plays the sound I want (midi key d3) but when I put a note into my midi track the same note doesnt play. This is in ableton btw
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby superscurge » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:25 pm

Mick wrote:Hey all, so my question is about a preset I found in massive called underwunder. When I hold the s key on my laptop it plays the sound I want (midi key d3) but when I put a note into my midi track the same note doesnt play. This is in ableton btw


I just checked this on Ableton and Massive (1.3.0) and it sounds fine to me, They both play the same sound o.O
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby Mick » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:46 pm

superscurge wrote:
Mick wrote:Hey all, so my question is about a preset I found in massive called underwunder. When I hold the s key on my laptop it plays the sound I want (midi key d3) but when I put a note into my midi track the same note doesnt play. This is in ableton btw


I just checked this on Ableton and Massive (1.3.0) and it sounds fine to me, They both play the same sound o.O


I dunno what it is then, its just annoying because I really like the sound
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby ASAD » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:55 pm

IamChuck wrote:
djdstar wrote:
shmallen wrote:Hey guys!

I'm in need of some guidance here. I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to emulate this effect. It's kinda hard to explain but its in Madeon's Remix of Raise Your Weapon at about 1:04 and in Zedd's Spectrum at 3:11 to 3:20. The kind of like broken melody with a bunch complex shit all going on at once but cuts out the thing before it. I'm terrible at explaining haha. My guess is it's a bunch of MIDI clips triggered by Ableton's randomizer? I can't seem to figure it out. When i layer the sounds myself it just sounds too muddy and EXTREMELY time consuming. I'm working with Ableton Live. If you could point me to a tutorial or just explain how to set it all up that would be great! Thanks!



One way you can do it, is researching legato mode in Ableton, using a bunch of clips that are in the same key.


To be honest deadmau5 mentioned this in one of his ustream videos. He suggest that it is really audio samples trigered in abletons legato mode.
Just set follow action to 0-2-0 ( or how you like.. its about how long sample will be played before switching to other sample). For more interesting results set "Follow action A" to Any or Other. Press play button and record everything from that channel to a new one. Later just cut and paste + Sidechain. I tried few times to create this kind of "complextro" sound and got pretty damn good results by using this method. Its really fun :).

P.S. - Take some old records and chop them in one bar loops then use this method. Sometimes results are pretty good and you are finishing with some funky house tune.


WOW, i never knew about the legato effect in ableton, I always did it manually. But I looked more into it and found this video which is pretty helpful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfXjSEEU7gE
Zedd ft Foxes - Clarity (ASAD Remix) [Please vote --> http://remix.zedd.net/tracks/1076]

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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby ASAD » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:58 pm

CLOfficial wrote:Hey Guys,

This Past week I've been killing myself trying to achieve a guitarish ElectroHouse Bass. Dyro & Julain Jordan have especially been using this alot.
I'm on Summer vacation and I've been spending countless hours trying to figure it out but to no avail -___-
I've gotten pretty close using Massive, but haven't been able to get that Grit, & it sounds to 'thin and fake' even with a sausage fattener and layering. I end up distorting it too much at times too.
Well yeah, would greatly appreciate any tips in creating it.
Thanks in Advance.



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Hmm sounds like they used Massive Saw based bass and then added guitar amp effect. I would try Guitar Rig, it has tons of different guitar amps.
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby neskytapia » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:04 am

sebrodrigues wrote:Does anyone know what plug-in just about every big producer seems to be using nowadays to make that rising, kind off-pitch synth sound. For example it comes in at 3:50 in Greyhound and at 1:52 in Spaceman.

Thanks alot




Hi! I'm new in this forum, this will be my first contribution :yawinkle: Is a Synplant preset called: NE Rubb Da Bassline, and then to raise the pitch up you can use a plugin like Soundshifter or Pitchwheel. And Sorry for my bad english :?
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby Sexton » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:05 pm

Mick wrote:
superscurge wrote:
Mick wrote:Hey all, so my question is about a preset I found in massive called underwunder. When I hold the s key on my laptop it plays the sound I want (midi key d3) but when I put a note into my midi track the same note doesnt play. This is in ableton btw


I just checked this on Ableton and Massive (1.3.0) and it sounds fine to me, They both play the same sound o.O


I dunno what it is then, its just annoying because I really like the sound


Have you checked to make sure the velocity is the same value? Instead of drawing the note into the piano roll record it while pressing the s key that should ensure you have the same velocity at least
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Re: Production skills, tips, tricks and techniques

Postby Puusti » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:37 pm

Hey guys! First of all I have to say I love this forum. I'm currently reading through it and have reached about half. Totally worth it!

So two quick questions, I tried searching but didn't find anything:

1. In many of Dannic's tracks he has this kind of sliding sine bass or something. In this track for example @ 1:00:



Dow does he achieve that rolling/sliding bass sound? It's probably simple to recreate so sorry if I come of as a newbie. :lol:

2. I have the TB Isone plug-in and saw that Mauricio recommended it. Is there some good setting/preset that's better than the others? I don't have any monitors so I can't really reference if it sounds good.
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